In Defense of ....
This first letter is a Reply to Chariot in defense of the onslaught the Author of the Wicca Article had been taking. Hundreds of hate letters were coming in, so I just picked one of them to reply to. This is the first message in replied to Chariot in defense of the Author and the Wicca Article itself.
Letter Number 1 To Chariot:
Chariot,
I am an outside observer in this frontal against pastor Reckart by you Wiccan/non-Wiccan/satanic/paganists. And to this point I have kept silent. But your letter will be answered by myself, in defense of Pastor Reckart and for the righteousness sake of the word of God and truth.
Chariot's original quote
while I am not Wiccan, I have many friends who are, both Traditional and Eclectic. I have attended Wiccan ceremonies of handfasting, requiem and baptism along with seasonal celebrations.
Reply
Lets see, your not wiccan, but you frequent its activities. How am I to conclude your words here chariot. A common sense analogy of your first paragraph would lead one to think "here's someone who is untruthful from the get go". Not a wiccan, but attends the ceremonies. That is neither concluded reality or truth in a mind clear of the fog of pagan ideology.
Chariot's original quote
Never once have I observed anything that even remotely resembles what you describe as Wiccan practice.
Reply
So that concludes that it never happens, right Chariot? You have the upper hand and have been to them all. You speak with the leaders globally, and have attended every ritual gathering. I think not. Your opinion and experience is taken with a grain of salt and concluded as biased and based on your observances.
Chariot's original quote
I see that you list a bibliography as defense of your work. I have read a few of these titles, but not all. I am wondering, however, how many of them are true gems of yellow journalism? If these works are true to the spirit of Wicca, then you sir have made some unbelievable leaps in interpretation.
Reply
Much of the resource material was taken from authors who were actual High level Wicca Preists, had traveled the channels, and had experienced the depths of Wicca. Your own words reflect the ignorance you posess in the depth of these matters when you said "I am not a Wiccan". And by virtue of that statement you are counted as one lacking credibility in your line of attack. Where is your experience? How many channels have you travelled in the Wicca path? None, by admission of your own words. So what is the weight of your opinion "true gems of yellow journalism" on a scale of credibility, when balanced with the weight of these authors, whom have travelled the depths of the Wiccan path? I dare say you are a feather weight when balanced on that scale.
To add, by investigation of your WWW Site, I will conclude that your words are merely opinion of someone who hasn't the experience or knowlege to usurp authoritative conclusion in rebuttle to the Wicca Article. Moreover, your site is filled with links leading to witchcraft and other satanic channels. Therefore, your words are not to be trusted by comparison of what you write and what your site promotes. You have been pegged.Chariot's original quote
I am at a loss. I am both horrified and brutally amused by your words. What a truly small world you must live in.
Reply
Small indeed it is Chariot. Narrow is the path to salvation. For in the words of the Lord Jesus himself:
Mt:7:13-14: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat; Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Whether you believe in his words or not, they are the final authority and you will be judged according to every idle word written, according to your faith in them or your rebellion against them. Not of my opinion, but of the Word of God. And so it is written:
Rom:3:4: God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Chariot's original quote
May the Goddess have mercy upon your soul, and may you learn the true teachings of Jesus Christ, and someday learn what it really means to be a Christian.
Reply
Goddess? Ha! The very word reflects that of one who follows either Isis, Diana, Tanuit, Ashtoreth, Venus, Mylitta, et or al; all of which are biblically and historically noted as Godesses of spiritual whoredome and satanic seed. And these are the very same Spiritual Godesses that Israel Apostated herself with when in Babylonian Captivity. To add, your very start page reflects your stand with these same spirits by virtue of your banner "Tantra: Spiritual Sexuality". So when you Conclude with wishes of mercy from a Pagan Goddess who is of the worship seed of Cain the cursed, I reply:
2Pt:2:1-3: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2Pt:2:10-13: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness.For the Victor has long been proclaimed in the Word of God:
Mt:16:18: And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
And not by the testemony of my words, but once again may the Word of God testify his judgement against those who practice such things as you promote. For only the words of God are to be observed in a light of truth, and shall, on the last day, judge all:
Rom:3:4: God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Your words to Pastor Reckart are as a well without water:
2Pt:2:17: These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
And in the end, those who follow and promote shall receive the Righteous Judgement of the Lord:
Gal:5:20-21: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Mt:13:41-43: The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.I don't see a Godess here. I see the Father. Your Godesses of spiritual whoredome (as they are described in the word of God and historical literature) have no mercy seat for me. I answer you with the Word of God, you answer Pastor Reckart with vain babblings of one who confesses inexperience in the Channel Depths of Wiccan path, and therefore your opinion merits no ear. Good day to you.
End of First Correspondence mailing.
Letter Number 2: Chariot Replies
Chariot Starts With
Well, I didn't consider my words an attack, even if the good pastor's words certainly were fighting words.
Reply
That's right. You do a lot of considering to the betterment of your own behalf. But I consider matters in the light of Christ whether you like it or not. For, you will stand before him and every idle word shall be brought before you. I await to see your answers as you stand before him. Jesus himself clearly warns us:
Mt:12:36: But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Chariot Wrote
Allow me to re-but:
Original Message to Chariot:
Lets see, your not wiccan, but you frequent its activities. How am I to conclude your words here chariot. A common sense analogy of your first paragraph would lead one to think "here's someone who lies from the get go". Not a wiccan, but attends the ceremonies. That is neither concluded reality or truth in a mind clear of the fog of pagan ideology.
That's right. I ain't a Wiccan. I considered myself one for a short while, but decided that I didn't want to align myself with that particular mode of faith. I am, however, a Pagan and I never denied that. True, I did not state it, but I left a link to my webpage which pretty clearly (in most cases) states my positions.
Original Message to Chariot
So that concludes that it never happens, right Chariot? You have the upper hand and have been to them all. You speak with the leaders globally, and have attended every ritual gathering. I think not. Your opinion and experience is taken with a grain of salt and concluded as biased and based on your observances.
Chariot Wrote
By all means, call me biased! I am. And so are you and the good pastor. Wicca has no global leaders, no central authority. In that very statement of yours you show your own ignorance of the real state of things. Or am I mistaken? Is there some great, hidden Satanic conspiracy that I am unaware of? Having been an honest and devout seeker for most of my life, I think I'd have an inkling if there was such a thing.
Reply
My stand is with Christ and righteousness sake. Those who choose the paths of your faiths seek Self Gratification (carnality, permiscuity, fornication, idolitry, witchcraft, all these have been observed in pagan activities, likened to yours, as part of the faith foundation itself). Don't try to mix words concerning my statement of leaders Globaly. Are you literate whatsoever, or are you once again manipulating words to the betterment of your behalf, twisting word structure to propogate an unwarrented outcome. Lets get my statement clear Chariot, I said "Do you speak with leaders Globally", not "Do you speak with Global Leaders". Do you now see the difference in my intented message according to the sentence structure, literacy, and common english. Doesn't appear so. I tend to think you are twisting sentence structure to advantage an attack, and try to call it ignorance on my part. I see clearly who is the ignorant one here (as you defined it above). If I am misunderstanding your intent, then I appologize.
Chariot Wrote
Perhaps I should have stated that it was my experience that these things do not happen? Would that clarify matters? And while my experience may not be all that travelled, its pretty varied.
And if you can show me hard evidence that these things describe actually do happen, and on as regular a basis as is implied, I'll be glad to believe it.Reply
Here is the proof of word twisting by your very words. The first statement in the former parargaph accuses me of intending the defination as "Global Leaders", then on the first line of this paragraph you say "may not be that traveled" concluding you understood the intent of my statement in the prior paragraph in the first place. Clearly the attributes of someone out to belittle our Christian intent by (twisting, manipulating, deceiving).
As for the second part of this message, "who ever said anything about a regular basis". I don't recall the article stating it in any line. I Formatted that article for HTML, and as I did I observed the syntax clearly. And as for your statement "show me evidence that these things actually happen" try the US news columns. You can find plenty of testimony from murderers, prison inmates, and the like who have placed the blame on the sects and covens they frequented. How about the most recent, a youth in Oregon (killed his parents, then his classmates), says he was into Satanism Witchcraft and Wicca, and did it because of his followings. Progressing the channels I believe he called it in one internet news article. He doesn't stand alone. There are pleanty who have stated the same to the press. Or do you keep your eyes to your pagan books and not the media (or real world events).
There is more than enough evidence to back it. And just because you haven't searched it, doesn't mean it does not exist. Try the Local Library National News Archives. They are computer based, and accessable readily. Beyond that, you give no credit to the authors of the Bibliographies by your words below. So what you conclude, is the "extensive" library of your books weighs more credit, than the authors of the wicca article resource books, who escaped the cult itself, and testified of its secret activities. Who do you think I'm going to believe? Your authored/published pagan biased books, or someone who has escaped these paths of spiritual death, then tells it like it truly is. Profess all you want, but history shows many in your cultic rings have lied to hide the truths of the evils within. Should I expect any less from you?Original Message Quote to Chariot
Much of the resource material was taken from authors who were actual High level Wicca Preists, had traveled the channels, and had experienced the depths of Wicca. Your own words reflect the ignorance you posess in the depth of these matters when you said "I am not a Wiccan". And by virtue of that statement you are counted as one lacking credibility in your line of attack. Where is your experience. How many channels have you travelled in the Wicca path. None, by admission of your own words. So what is the weight of your opinion "true gems of yellow journalism" on a scale of credibility, when balanced with the weight of these authors, whom have travelled the depths of the Wiccan path. I dare say you are a feather weight when balanced on that scale.
Chariot Wrote
I've not even heard of most of the resources stated. And my library, while not tremendous, is pretty extensive. And most of this jargon of "paths" doesn't relate to Wicca in the slightest. Now if you want to talk Qabbalah, there's some paths. But mainstream, traditional Wicca doesn't have much to do with Qabbalah. And as a matter of fact, Qabblah has an awful lot more in common with Catholicism than it does Wicca.
Reply
First off, it is spelled Kabbalah in the english dialect. Makes me wonder just how many times you truly have seen the word in print. But then again, I'll revert to my prior paragraph, last sentence, for that answer. Kabbalah is nothing more than a pagan Jewish sect. The same following as those who dug out the Groves as it writtin in the Old Testement when the Jews turned their back on God and worshipped pagan idols in Babylon, setting their idols of worship in the groves on the hills. Such activity parallels with the sects we see pagans involed in (as far as idolitry, emulation, witchcraft, mysticism, paganism is concerned). They are nothing new, same spirit behind them, just a diffent name in a different time. As for Kabbalah vs. Catholicism, correct you are, to a point, but let's get it straight first and foremost.
Kabbalism is not common to Catholocism, it is the exact oppisite, Catholocism is common to Kabbalism, for Kabbalism was around long before Christianity or the Catholic Church. To add, Catholicism is structured on the foundation of Christ, and the deity of Christ, Kabbalism is not. The Kabbalah is a Jewish Sect structured on Mysticism, idolitry, paganism, and are considered Jewish heretics among Jews (or as some Jews call them, Pagan Jews). Kabbalah idolitry was engrafted into the Catholic Church in the Third Century by cults practicing eastern mystcism or what was known as the Kabbalah influence the eastern churches governed under Roman rule (Read up on the Council of Nicea or the Nicean Creed). And the Church of Rome is in no way the Church of Christ. On the contrary, she is the daughter of the Babylonian whore sitting upon the beast in Revelation. Just another Sect with a Christian Mask. The very word "Catholic" translates "united, or Unity, or come together as one". One world Religion, as it is written in the revelations and prophecies of God's word, to unmask the Harlot (or false) Church of the end times. Biblical theology, history, and study will soundly prove that statement.
As far as your statement on "paths" and wicca is concerned. I will rely more on those who have been down the long road, experiened the depths, the paths (or channels as they have described them) and escaped its stronghold, rather than the lies of authors who promote Wiccan and other Pagan or Cultic activity (such as you read). Here's an article for you to chew on. Maybe you'll understand a little more about Kaballah and Rome after viewing these articles. They are not as indepth as some I have read, but I know the author, and his sources are reliable. This isn't much, but I have access to more, much more:
Understanding The Kabbalah
The Whore (church) and her daughtersChariot Wrote
Where is my experience? My experience lies in seeking God for most of my life. I was brought up a lapsed Catholic, and I tried to find God in that faith. But He wasn't home for me there. I found Him in my heart and in the wild places I knew. And I found He wasn't alone, either.
Reply
He was not alone? Let's observe your spiritual discovery was according to the written word of God:
Ex:20:5: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Ex:34:14: For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
Deut:4:24: For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
Isa:43:11: I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isa:45:21: Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Isa:43:3: For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Isa:44:6: Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isa:45:5: I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Isa:45:6: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me.I am the LORD, and there is none else.
You were looking for God in the wrong place. Once again, the God of the Catholic Church is not the God of the Holy Bible, they are the heretic church. Following the Triad Doctrinal teaching of Nimrod and Babylon (three dieties, i.e. father, son, holy ghost). If you knew all the symbolic rituals of Mysticism that were imported into the Catholic Church beginning in 325 AD and growing throughout midevil ages, you wouldn't call them a church at all, you would call them Pagan, as they truly are. Why do you think the protestants protested? Why all the branches, denominations? There was only one God, One Church, One Faith, One baptism, when the church was born on Pentecost. And in an issue of Christian martyrdome, Roman Popes have killed so many True Christians, that Rome can't even build a subway because of the body count. Check it out for yourself in the Foxes Book of Martyrs. Idol worshipers, statues (or graven images), praying to dead saints as a medium to Christ; "Well, the vail separating the Tabernacle "Holy of Holies" from men was rent the moment Jesus died on the cross when the earth shook. The studied Christian knows that the Word declares we come boldly before the throne of God now, because of it the sacrifice upon the cross". The Tabernacle now dwells in men and women of God, who are endwelled with the Holy Ghost. The Catholic church has no Holy Ghost. Not the TRUE (or alive) Holy Ghost endwelling the Bible shows to be proven of one endwelled (i.e. Speaking in tongues, fruit of the Holy Spirit). And Charamaticism is not Born again. Witches have spoken in tongues too. And so God has given HIS Church the Gifts of "Discerning of the Spirit" and "Tongue Interpretation" 1Cor:12:
I could go on and on, but for time sake I need to try to shorten this reply. I hope that happens. Hahaha! You are in error to consider the Catholic Church you attended in any way the Church defined as the true Church of Christ in the Holy Bible. You never knew God, and you still don't. All you know is Satan, whether you follow him, believe in him, worship him or not, the word of God says you are either a servant of God or a slave to satan. There are no inbetweens. Just because you call the air invisible doesn't excuse its exsistance. It is still there. So is the testemony of the existence of God. He is before your eyes, yet you see him not. So it is in the spiritual world. No matter how many words we debate Chariot, the last day will prove who is right, and who is wrong. And the prophecies of the Bible have been fulfilled one after the other after the other unto the signing of the peace treaty in Israel in the 60's. You cannot deny that in any way. How much prophecy has your following predicted and come to pass. None. Because the spirit of your faith is not omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient as is the God of my faith. Whether you accept him or not, you WILL face him one day. Take it any way you like.
The pursuit of this correspondence is a waste of my time anyhow and I will end it with this last reply. You can call us evil, haters of those outside our faith or anything else, but when God says do it, they did it and we do it also. They were and we are justified in the will of God, in our action of faith. Now, I'm sure you will try to speak evil of what I have said, but for righteousness sake and to refute the possibility, I say "No, a true Christian doesn't go around murdering, or molestion boys, or any of the other hiddeous deeds we read in the headlines and historical archives. On the contrary, a true Christian follows every idle word of God. I suggest you understand its completeness before you excercise judgement again our righteous action in judging everything according to God's written word.
If Gods word says expose the spirits and lies of these that follow after lasciviousness, adultry, pagan idolitry, etc.. we shall do it, again and again and again. Those of Israel were justified by obedience to the will of God, and so will we be. Biblical History shows us that Israel was commanded to utterly destroy nations dwelling upon the blessed land given to Israel. They were told to leave nothing behind. And so, they did, and were justified in performing the will of God. God creates and he takes what he will, when he will. If you question this I say "who are you to question the motives of God, or the people of God"? You know nothing of him or his people. Because you are blinded by the prince of this world whether you think you follow him or not. The chains and fetters are about you, yet you see them not. And these aforementioned are in the WRITTEN word of God, not of my own opinion. Judge him if you like, he will surely judge you. And that will be righteous judgement.Original Message Quote to Chariot
To add, by investigation of your WWW Site, I will conclude that your words are merely opinion of someone who hasn't the experience or knowlege to usurp authoritative conclusion in rebuttle to the Wicca Article. Moreover, your site is filled with links leading to witchcraft and other satanic channels. Therefore, your words are not to be trusted by comparison of what you write and what your site promotes. You have been pegged.
Chariot Wrote
Pegged as what? A Pagan? A Heathen? I'll lay claim to those titles. Don't dare call me a Satanist. And don't dare call me a Witch. Those are your words. Those are your swears. I don't believe in your Satan. I do give your God some room, which is more than you are willing to do for the billions of people who don't believe as you do.
Reply
By the words of the Lord Jesus himself, it is written:
Mt:12:30: He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
And to reiterate on a former note, Satan is not mine, he is yours. Whether you believe, follow, worship him or not, by the word of God, he sifts you in your ignorance.
Lk:22:31: And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
He binds you until you are freed by the name, blood, testemony, word, and Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, the only authority Satan must answer to. As for giving my God room, Hahaha! Who are you to contain God. You cannot even comprehend him. Creation cannot contain the creator. You can only rebel pagan. And as for the Billions of people that do or don't believe in him:Jms:2:19: Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Mk:6:11: And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Mt:7:13-14: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.Count it truth or fable, you will find it's truth on the last day. For you will not depart from this world alive.
Chariot Wrote
And you can certainly call my words opinion, but don't try to pass off the good pastor's words as anything more. You keep harping on my lack of experience. Yes, I state in my site that I found Paganism not that long ago. But I began looking for God in the third grade; honestly, and with all my heart, soul and mind. How's that for experience.
Reply
You don't find God, he finds you: I ask you to try again Chariot. God loves you, even though you, I, and everyone else has sinned. He will forgive all sin except the blaspheming of the Holy Ghost. So it is written:
Jn:6:44: No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Mk:3:28-29: Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Consider giving him another chance Chariot. Consider the child like hope you had in your heart, and bring it back in prayer. He will answer. He will. Some waited 40, 80, and more years for an answer from God. That's not saying this would be your experience. But he will answer and ernest, humble heart with grace and mercy, for he is the viewer of the hearts intent. And only he can do that.
As for the pastors words, they are based on study, not opinion. Just as you base your opinion on your "extensive" library content, so does he. But when examined in the light of truth, found only in the Word of God, we see you are soundly defined as one in rebellion to the will of God. And that is judged righteously by the word of God and punishment shall be eternal. Chariot, let me ask you something: are the pleasures of this world worth more to you than eternal life in Glory? Consider what I ask, and search your heart before you answer yourself. Take a walk outside of yourself before you think on it. Ok?Chariot Wrote
And where exactly did you find a link from Chariot's Wheels to a site that was even remotely Satanic? Or are you lumping us all together again?
Reply
Once again, either you are a servant of God or a slave to satan, there is no inbetween, he that is not with him is against him. Don't call yourself with him in word, but in DEED. The Book of Shadows, the banners promoting freedom of sexual permiscuity in the name of Spiritualism, just what spirit do you think is behind them? God gave laws in the Old testement for a reason. His wisdom in commandment goes far beyond your insight into freedom of this or that. You have free choice, but you will answer to what you know your God given conscience has given you, whether you follow God or not. The testemony of the conscience will deem you judged of God. So I see links promoting pagan Idolitry and the sort, which are soundly refuted in the word of God. You say you searched for God as a youth and you ask me of Satanic symbolism? If you truly did search for God, and by his word, you should already know his commandments clearly speak against idolitry. Let the word of God lump you together with them, not my words. His words are truth whether believed or not.
Chariot Wrote
Please don't hurl Biblical passages at me. You are right, I don't have to believe them. I've read them. I've studied them and their history. They are empty for me. If it turns out, that when I die I am called to task, SO BE IT. I know that the good I have done in this world far outweighs any evil I might have done according to your 2000+ year old texts.
Reply
That is too bad Chariot. I'm sorry to hear your heart is empty of Godly love. It is filled with false carnal love instead, according to the word of God. A worldly (or as you pagans describe it "earthly") love instead. The heart that seeks God with dilligence, this is the heart of true love. Yours is void, and whether you consider your interactions with others as love, it is counted for naught. You say your actions of good far outway the bad. Fine, but don't think they will get you into heaven. Even if you lived a celibut life, doing all good to all men. Without Faith, it is all counted as filthy Rags:
Isa:64:6: But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Isa:53:6: All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.Original Message Quote to Chariot
Goddess? Ha! The very word reflects that of one who follows either Isis, Diana, Tanuit, Ashtoreth, Venus, Mylitta, et or al; all of which are biblically and historically noted as Godesses of Spiritual whoredome and satanic seed. And these are the very same Spiritual Godesses that Israel Apostated herself with when in Babylonian Captivity. To add, your very start page reflects your stand with these same spirits by virtue of your banner "Tantra: Spiritual Sexuality". So when you Conclude with wishes of mercy from a Pagan Goddess who is of the worship seed of Cain the cursed,
Chariot Wrote
The Bible is a little biased when it talks about the Gods and Goddesses of other faiths, wouldn't you say?
And the banner on my start page ROTATES, I don't control it. I don't personally ascribe to Tantra, but I don't have a problem with it.
And please don't insult my Goddess. I didn't insult your God, I don't think. If I did, I was in error. That is not my aim or style.Reply
No the Bible is not biased concerning Idols (or other Gods) other than the One True God. God is a jealous God. Over and over his word tells us there are no others. There are none beside him. You worship creation. I worship its creator. Big difference. If you think the master of your existence is going to stand by and let you worship his creation rather than he himself, and do nothing about it, or say nothing about it, or feel nothing about it, you are more ignorant of his Word and will than I had thought.
Ex:20:5: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Ex:34:14: For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
Deut:4:24: For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
Isa:43:11: I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isa:45:21: Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time?who hath told it from that time?have not I the LORD?and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Isa:43:3: For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Isa:44:6: Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isa:45:5: I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Isa:45:6: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me.I am the LORD, and there is none else.
I could go on and on and on. But why should I? You say God's words mean nothing to you. But for the sake of a witness on the day of Judgment, you have been shown.Original Message Quote to Chariot
I don't see a Godess here. I see the Father. Your Godesses of whoredome (as they are described in the word of God and historical literature) have no mercy seat for me. I answer you with the Word of God, you answer Pastor Reckart with vain babblings of one who confesses inexperience in the Channel Depths of Wiccan path, and therefore your opinion merits no ear. Good Day.
Chariot Wrote
Again, you're slamming my Goddess. Get over it, okay?
Reply
I don't slam, but if the word of God pricks your heart, so be it, for it is truth, whether believed or denied. Moreover, I instead rightly dividing the truth of Gods word and dispel your myths according to it. I don't base my answers on my own opinion, but the word of God. And you base it on the pagan writings and idolatries of men. And if you want to say my source is of men, take heed, lest you be deceived again:
2Pt:1:21: For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
The word of God is written BY the Spirit of God through the instrument of men, he deemed Holy. Your books are written by the Carnal will and spirit of unholy, unsaved men/women. Big difference.Chariot Wrote
And stop putting me down, while you're at it. Many people have criticised my writing, but it has never been called "vain babbling" before. I think I put forth a pretty coherent argument, without having to resort to quoting texts that were outdated in the time of Jesus.
Reply
Have I put you down? Forgive me, I assure you it was not directed at your personage, your literacy, or your verbiage in any way, but toward the content of your message to Pastor Reckart itself. However, aren't you the one who wrote Pastor Reckart with words belittling his knowledge of your Pagan practices in the first place? Is the pot calling the kettle black here? The word of God is my reply to your every answer concerning the content of this correspondence. The words, writings, and practices of carnal men are yours. Who's do you think will matter on the last day? Who's will God count as righteous?
Chariot Wrote
From where I stand, everyone's opinion merits an ear. I have a brain, a heart, a soul. I am a human being. I have intelligence and will and determination. And experience, which you are constantly trying to deny. Why is that? I've been questing for close to 30 years, seems like that ought to count for something.
Reply
Your opinions are of the slight of men. Your words are those of one who walks and believes in a path contrary to God. You have been show the written word of God, concerning all of this matter and his answers to your pagan ideology. One more concerning your opinion and your quests outside of the will of God:
1Tm:6:20: O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
2Tm:2:16: But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
Eph:4:14: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
1Tm:4:1: Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Tm:6:3-5: If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
I think that explains it clearly enough. If not, there is more, much more.Chariot Wrote
While my closing could have been worded better, I don't think my words were hardly as inflammatory as the diatribe you have handed me. Where did I attack your faith? Where did I attack the good pastor's integrity? With my remark about "yellow journalism"? That was a slam at his resources, not him. Anyone can be given bad information.
Reply
Lets take a look at your words, both concerning the attack on faith and integrity of Pastor Reckart:
"I am at a loss. I am both horrified and brutally amused by your words. What a truly small world you must live in".
Try to convince me your weren't trying to defame character, faith, knowledge, and integrity here? I wonder if you will try and twist these words to your betterment also. Your words testify against you.
Chariot Wrote
Well, I've had about enough of this abuse for now.
Reply
Abuse? Who shot the first arrow? Pastor Reckart wrote an article according to scripture and reference by those whom have experienced the depths of Wicca. You challenged it and and cast the first stone. I, seeing my brother in Christ fending the darts and onslaught of (what the word of God defines as the Enemy) answered with the word of God, and you are abused? Get behind, in Jesus name pagan. Your fluttering of emotion will not cause Pastor Reckart nor myself to bend from the issues of truth (as they are defined in the word of God). If the Wicca article is found to be MORE correct or incorrect, it will be edited as such. Those in your line of worship have been proven deceivers in the past. So we will not use biased material such as your own, which consistently deceives the general public in an effort to make a black pot shine as gold. We will continue to search Historical archives, media archives, and books by those who have come out, and have a reason to expose the truth. Moreover, the spirit(s) the Wiccans follow, whether knowingly-willingly or unknowingly-unwillingly are the enemy of God. Don't think for a moment the Wicca article is coming down. We are saving every mailing, and have already received confession from Wiccans as to the activities mentioned in the article. Little by little the database grows, and the truth comes out. Keep burying yourselves deeper with your own tongues.
Some of you have threatened Pastor Reckart with unlawful law suits. Hahaha! You want to cry abuse? Look at the threats against Pastor Reckart by the ones you stand in league with. We have the mail copies to prove it with your addresses on them. What a bunch of self gratifying dreamers. They don't like the exposure of the depth of sin "some" of those within the following have been found to indulge in, so in and effort to thwart that exposure, they cry suit. You should have policed yourselves if you didn't want to be named among them. But you all haven't. And that very action tells us that you stand with them, in your oaths of secrecy. And that is the same deceptive character and mindset of the Gay activists. "Oh I'm deeply hurt, I need compensation, I can't sleep at night any more, I'm so distraught by his words. Or the most common lie, I was born this way". Yah right! Coming out of the closet, marching the streets of America waving their banners of filth and evil in the name of sexual awareness and freedom, then trying to spread and promote that same evil to my children in the public school system. But, "No God in the classroom". God forbid, "Evil is allowed", "Truth is Expelled". That's what I face daily. So don't think for a moment any of us will back down from promoting the truth.
John the Baptist lost his head for facing a king by exposing his adulterous activity with the kings sister in law. How much more would John find the evils of common man today? How much louder would he cry? Rome is filled with the bodies of True Christians who spoke out against Idolatry, paganism, witchcraft and all the other elements of the Roman Church. And their martyr will be answered on the last day. I count it Glory to stand for Christ, his words, his truth. For when I promote his word, I promote him. Don't like it, does it prick the heart? Not my problem. Been there, experienced it. Only God gave me the mercy, grace, and Godly conviction to repent of it. It is Gods law, and it is final authority whether liked or disliked, agreed or disagreed. Yet, the men and women of God find freedom in his words. Something only the children of the Lord can understand. On the other hand, Carnal Man is cradled in iniquity, spoon-fed with evil, and the carnal mind goes before his paths. So it is written:
Ps:51:5: Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Job:14:1: Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble.
Ps:88:3: For my soul is full of troubles: and my life draweth nigh unto the grave.Try waving a Gay, Pagan, Wicca, banner in the Middle east, China and many other countries overseas, see where you get. In some countries, if they even thought you practice the aforementioned, you would be in the town square facing the chopping block within hours. Been there, seen it Chariot. US Navy, 1982 - 1988 and frequented many of those countries on WEST PAC. And that applies to Christians too. So, if the Wiccans want to throw their money in the toilets, and hand it over to blood sucking lawyers who jump at any effort to generate a bill, let them. They will be casting their money to dogs who cannot bark or bite. Even if they did try to regulate religious based material on the WWW, don't think for a moment the Christian Coalition wouldn't answer with their own lawyers, whom have dealt with many issues such as these in the past. Constitutional Freedom of Speech and Press, whether regulated on the internet or not (which it is not and cannot be due to the onslaught of Territorial Boundaries) is at worst a drawback for any such effort in suit.
Moreover, Pastor Reckart has defamed no one personally. He has named no names. He has named the actions, historically found in a pagan following. And let me say this: Since we have heard from the vast amount of from all you Wiccans, pagans, and cultists we are searching ever more to prove or disprove what is currently written. If we find evidence to prove more soundly the current documentation, we will post it. If we find evidence to show contrary, we will post it. Fair is fair. But, we will not back away from the position Gods word holds against those who follow after evil Idolatries and worship other than the Lord God himself. You call it freedom of Religion, the word of God calls it Idolatry. And that stand we will not drop.
Chariot Wrote
If you'd care to write back, and refrain from attacking me and my faith, and try to have an intelligent discussion about what the differences are between Paganism in the real world and Paganism as it is presented in the pastor's article, I would be happy to continue this discourse.
Reply
As I said above, there will be no further discussion. I wish I could Chariot, but understand there are more, many more to be answered. And you are biased to the followings of Idolatry, and I am faithful to the following of the Lord. We have no conversation lest you should want to speak of the grace of God on your behalf. And for that I will put it all down. I love your soul, hate the spirit of the idolatry you are bound to. Whether you think yourself bound or not, you are. Spiritual freedom is only found in the Grace of the Creator. Satan has already lost the battle and is judged and awaits his time. The earth you worship, is one day going to be burnt by its maker. It is written also:
Mt:24:35: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Rv:1:7: Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Rv:8:7: The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.Chariot Concluded
In an attempt to be non-denominational and to make up for my poorly chosen closing:
A good day to,
good health,
and may you find happiness
in your own way.
ChariotFinal Reply
Chariot, I wish you peace, Guidance, mercy, Grace, deliverance, compassion, and love in the name of Jesus Christ. Please understand, that I say and do, in the name of the Lord, and by the word of the Lord. As I said above, I love your soul. It is an eternal creation of God. I don't want to see it perish in the second death:
Mt:10:28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
The pleasures of the flesh are so short and so deceiving, they are measured as a Season of Life. And then it is over before you realize it. And then what Chariot? Are you secure in your security? I know by the sprit of God dwelling in me, I am. It is real Chariot. Very real. I have never felt anything in my life as I did when the spirit of God moved into me. No sexual experience, no High, No fun occasion can compare to it with any measure. I will never forget the day I received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. It was as if a wave of immeasurable love was passing through me, washing me, regenerating my spirit. I felt a great weight come physically off of my shoulders. I now understand that was the weight of my sin. I felt a heat move throughout my entire body, yet no fire. I now understand that was the spirit of God cleansing the iniquity of the flesh and burning it as chaff and purging the iniquity of my very soul. And as this happened suddenly I began to speak in another language or as it is called (tongues). Very clear, very dialectic. Every person I know who has experienced this first endwelling of the spirit of Christ will testify to it's magnificence. That is the born again experience. Living breathing, an eternal feeling, very alive. Some have had more in their experience, some less. All in all they have received the FREE gift of God and the Mercy of Christ. What more could anyone want? Freedom from the bondage of eternal damnation. My mother once told me, that I was a fanatic and that her good deeds would save her. Even though I pointed to her the scripture defining Gods attitude toward our good deeds and the righteousness of them, she still denied the truth of the word of God, and died unsaved. When she passed away, the pain that struck most deeply is that I knew, by the grace and word of God, and should I make it into the gates of the kingdom of Heaven, she would not be there to greet me, EVER.
I share that with you in an attempt to let you know, love, and grace is pure with God. Love is not pure with man. It is false sense of pure love, or as it is sometimes called, "human love". Human love is bound in and parameters of carnal SENSES (see, hear, smell, taste, touch). What we often attribute as love can be broken down into a puzzle of lust and carnal gratification. The flesh loves to please itself and when given room will never subject itself to God. The word of God says that the flesh is enmity against God. That means it is an eternal enemy of God. Think about it. But God's love is perfect love. It doesn't look at yesterday, or yesterdays valleys and summits, it looks at now (when you are saved). It doesn't love one more than the other, it loves all the same, and meets out that love equally (if you are saved).
So consider what I have said, and please don't take the words I have written here harshly or as a personal attack. They are not directed toward you in that manner. In Jesus Christ I love your soul, and want you to go to heaven. That is up to you, so, please consider what I have said in conclusion, and go back to the day when you were the young child seeking God, and please, for the sake of your soul, try again... Just try again Chariot!End of Second Response
Final Reply from Chariot:
I considered going through this line by line, but as we both have others to correspond with, I will spare us both the tedium.
We stand on two sides of a river, you and I. Unfortunately, I do not see that there will ever be a bridge across. You stand insulated in the Truth of God and His Word, while I am but a lowly human trying to make sense of this world and Divine Creation. I can only understand this wonderous universe with the senses and intelligence and feeling that my Divine Parents gave to me. And using those glorious gifts has led me to where I am today, and they will doubtlessly continue to lead me in the further years of my life. My path is never-ending, my quest has no goal but unity.
If there truly is a reckoning day, perhaps I will stand corrected in the error of my ways. And if you are there, as you suggest you will be, I will apologize to you for not heeding your admonishments.
Until such time, we shall remain divided. Truly a shame, for the brotherhood of man, compassion for your fellows and love are the finest teachings of Jesus Christ (know that I am not trying to educate you in your faith, I know you know these things, I just feel we have a different interpretation of what they mean in this physical world).
But I will rest assured, knowing that you are blessed with hope and peace in your faith, and I ask you to please consider this: all thoughts of Heaven and Hell aside, I have hope and peace in my faith.
Chariot
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